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[分享]每兩千公里換機油心得

沒錯, qwqaaa兄.,
台灣也沒有離開地球, 但卻如此的不同, 合理的情況是廠商和店家應該有義務大力推廣亞洲系統的2,000km(歐美系的3000先別想了), 中間的1000km在保養表機油部分改為I: inspect以檢查代替, 而台灣車主不會自己檢查, 也可以由車店代為檢補機油, 也有工錢的收入. 這樣回歸正常的亞洲系統, 在和它地的網友交流時, 才不會被人家認為奇特.

另外台灣車廠還兼油廠, 也和世界不一樣, 在裁判兼教練下, 還使用個汽車5,000km, 確實容易使有思考能力的車主, 感到奇怪.
(歐美系都以15,000km, 大陸日本10,000km), 機車1,000km(歐美3,000"為主", 大陸日本等等2,000)

另外個人最近較認真download了不少原廠的英文手冊, 心得是光陽全是2,000km(可是南非光陽Dealer是說3,000km, 個人以為除了南非習慣上外, 價格差距不大, 沒3,000KM會被日系給壓垮), 三陽是3,000km(除了一台SR125是1000km, 真奇怪), 日系HONDA, YAMAHA是3,000kM(但一台大陸的VITY 125是2,000KM).

回覆 310# kaoan 的文章

RACING 4T 嗎?
那罐體質超級長壽的
而且FI 車的燃燒效率本來就高
比較不會績碳/汽油跑進進機油裡...
傳動車...油耗能分享下嗎? [分享]每兩千公里換機油心得2569
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007 2012-1-1 20:40 只看這個作者
還有一種,拆引擎來看,是否有卡髒東西or咖啡色也是算蠻準的

如果2000km換一次油,於幾萬km後,引擎內部無咖啡色or油泥之類的東西,也沒不正常吃機油or活塞頂無大量機油燒焦物,該油配該車就可這樣玩

相反的如有,基本就是不適合2000km換油

不過沒diy底子無法這樣玩,最簡單就是不用落引擎直接掀缸蓋(分離式缸頭)or鳥仔蓋(一體缸頭)來看內部是否有咖啡色,也可略知8~9成

幾乎大部分人試機油都試一半,因為都缺少引擎內部狀態

至於每500km  or  1000km檢查檢查是否吃機油於油尺下限,有就添加

如果500km可吃至下限,基本沒意外應該吃200~300cc
這樣如要撐至2000km要加3次共約600cc~900cc

這樣基本沒比較省,而且多少有內傷,已有上下機油狀況,機油受污染更多,劣化更快,像這種不是重整理,就是加便宜濃油(20w50,15w50..等),然後提早換才比較好,

有些嚴重的,想放棄的,甚至當2T養(只加不漏舊油)

設如前1000km都正常消耗機油約100cc內,但於1000~2000km就不等比例消耗的比較多,通常歸類於開始劣化的失油率

[ 本文章最後由 007 於 2012-1-1 20:43 編輯 ]

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http://forum.jorsindo.com/viewth ... p;extra=&page=2
的#45有寫到.

而國外的機油廠和車廠是容許引擎損耗一定的機油的.
南非是800km左右或到1,000km吃到機油尺下限為進廠修理的大概標準.....
http://www.shell.com/home/conten ... evels_other_fluids/
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When the oil level is below the minimum mark, find out how many kilometres have passed since the last oil change. If you are not sure or don't know, it is advisable to perform a complete oil change. If the mileage is between 4000km and 15000km you will only need to top up your oil. If it is above 15000km you need to change your oil.

There may be a technical problem if your mileage is less than 4000km and the oil level is low. Top up and start measuring the level on a weekly basis, or contact your local workshop for further advice.
以國外125速克達3,000km的換油里程換算, 那就是
當機油尺表低於最低的記號, 找出前次換油是多少里程, 若你不確定或不知道, 那建議您執行完全的機油更換(不用添加補油的方式).
若里程在800~3000km, 那只要添加機油到機油表滿(max記號, 英文用了top up的意思).
若3000km以上就要換機油.

若你的機油里程在800km內, 但機油尺表很低(低於Min)時, 這可能就是有問題了.
那就要每週檢查, 添滿機油, 或是連絡機車行得到進一步的建議.
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差不多國外就是這樣的觀念, 所以以國內的標準可能一定要修引擎了. 但國外專業的標準還沒到. 當然車主一定要也可以啦……..
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其實像訂個大約標準, 車主就很容易能知道是否機油吃過頭要送廠了.......

國外有些東西很容易, 有個標準, 大家好分辨......如舉例過的1.機油顏色和2.吃機油量. 有譜有底

台灣是比較土法練鋼, 百花齊放, 隨人喊價, 看個人和車店的奇朦子.101.gif

[ 本文章最後由 CBR250R 於 2012-1-1 21:39 編輯 ]
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/g ... p;contentId=6004639

How often should I have my oil changed? The general rule of thumb is to change your car's oil and oil filter every 3 months or every 3,000 miles, whichever comes first. You should consult your owner's manual for the exact manufacturer's specifications for your car, which may differ slightly. The owner's manual will have "normal" and "severe" recommendations. Severe driving conditions include driving in stop-and-go traffic or excessive idling, making frequent short trips (less than 5 miles per trip), driving in extreme temperatures (over 90 F or below freezing), and towing and hauling. The average driver probably considers his or her driving conditions normal, but the truth is that most of us drive under severe conditions far more often than we realize and should time our oil changes accordingly. However, sticking to the 3-month/3,000-mile rule is considered the minimum drain interval necessary for maximum engine performance.

這是Castrol網站上轉貼過來的, 汽車建議每3個月或3000哩(4800公里)換機油
原文章由 changmingjen 於 2012-1-3 23:18 發表 [分享]每兩千公里換機油心得7749
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/g ... p;contentId=6004639

How often should I have my oil changed? The general rule of thumb is to change your car's oil and oil filter every 3 months or every 3,000 miles, whichever comes first. You should consult your owner's manual for the exact manufacturer's specifications for your car, which may differ slightly. The owner's manual will have "normal" and "severe" recommendations. Severe driving conditions include driving in stop-and-go traffic or excessive idling, making frequent short trips (less than 5 miles per trip), driving in extreme temperatures (over 90 F or below freezing), and towing and hauling. The average driver probably considers his or her driving conditions normal, but the truth is that most of us drive under severe conditions far more often than we realize and should time our oil changes accordingly. However, sticking to the 3-month/3,000-mile rule is considered the minimum drain interval necessary for maximum engine performance.

這是Castrol網站上轉貼過來的, 汽車建議每3個月或3000哩(4800公里)換機油

Chang兄, 謝謝您的精彩文章, 是一篇好文, 得到很多知識.
這是一篇有關"劇烈"的條件下的換由要求, Chang兄應該更為完整翻譯出來, 網友才能完全了解.
Severe driving conditions include driving in stop-and-go traffic or excessive idling, making frequent short trips (less than 5 miles per trip), driving in extreme temperatures (over 90 F or below freezing), and towing and hauling. The average driver probably considers his or her driving conditions normal, but the truth is that most of us drive under severe conditions far more often than we realize and should time our oil changes accordingly.

這一段對劇烈駕駛的情況有描述, 包含走走停停的塞車, 過多的怠速等等....
事實上絕大多數的人時常處於劇烈駕駛情況下而不自知. 因此更應該定時換機油

回覆 318# changmingjen 的文章

是不是能有更完整的翻譯? 如網友常提的氣候, 這篇有寫到是那國(其實像在說台灣的都市交通), 距離如何和那國的一些Towing, Hauling特殊情況.

因為文章是您提出來, 那麼好的精彩內容沒全翻太可惜了. 知識的交流最寶貴了

[ 本文章最後由 CBR250R 於 2012-1-4 01:14 編輯 ]
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How often should I have my oil changed? The general rule of thumb is to change your car's oil and oil filter every 3 months or every 3,000 miles, whichever comes first. You should consult your owner's manual for the exact manufacturer's specifications for your car, which may differ slightly. The owner's manual will have "normal" and "severe" recommendations. Severe driving conditions include driving in stop-and-go traffic or excessive idling, making frequent short trips (less than 5 miles per trip), driving in extreme temperatures (over 90 F or below freezing), and towing and hauling. The average driver probably considers his or her driving conditions normal, but the truth is that most of us drive under severe conditions far more often than we realize and should time our oil changes accordingly. However, sticking to the 3-month/3,000-mile rule is considered the minimum drain interval necessary for maximum engine performance.

316F翻譯:

我應該多久換油?

一般的經驗法則是每3個月或每3000英里,來更換你車的油和機油濾清器,以先到者為準。
您應該諮詢為您的汽車手冊所有者的確切製造商的規格,可能會略有不同。

車主手冊,將有“正常”和“嚴重”的建議。惡劣的駕駛條件,包括駕駛走走停停或過度空轉,頻繁的短途旅行(每程不到5英里),行駛在極端溫度(超過 90 F或低於冰點),牽引和拖拉。

在一般的駕駛方式下可能認為他或她的駕駛條件下是正常的,但事實是,大部分我們開車在惡劣的條件,遠遠多於我們所認識知道的相對換油時間

然而,堅持3個月/3000英里的規則被認為是最大的發動機性能所必需的最低換油週期

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ps:90 F=攝氏32,33度

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