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今天比賽真是太嗨了 沒想到最後一個彎93還是要拼冠軍 看到噴砂還以為46出去

想不到猴王還是猴王  拉回來大灌油門弧輪奪冠

超棒!


是說弄honda2015車子的該打屁屁了...

“We've obviously reviewed the incident from all the camera angles we have.
The decision is racing incident. No advantage was gained,” Webb told Crash.net.

“The basis of that decision is primarily the helicopter shot that shows that at every stage Valentino was ahead.

“So Valentino had the right to the line. He was ahead. He was not passed.

As they reached the apex of the right-hand turn Marc touched Valentino, which made [Valentino] go wide.
So that's a racing incident. It's unavoidable.

“The two balancing things are that it was a hard pass with contact
and you are not allowed to push another rider off the line.

But the end result was that they entered and exited that series of corners in the same position.
No advantage gained. End of story.”

出處(全文)

for007youreyes 發表於 2015-6-27 23:18
“We've obviously reviewed the incident from all the camera angles we have.
The decision is racing ...

按照這樣的說法，若是Rossi因此摔車，MM93就有違規之嫌?

killpeople 發表於 2015-6-27 20:49
差一點Rossi跟L99上次一樣最後一圈最後幾彎被MM93幹掉
只能說他的運氣真夠好
騎到沙地上能安全得 ...

看看人家黑登69在2006年可是連分站冠軍都沒有就拿世界冠軍>>>>>>>>>>>>有人要救一下這位異世界會員嗎,至少說錯五遍以上

for007youreyes 發表於 2015-6-27 23:18
“We've obviously reviewed the incident from all the camera angles we have.
The decision is racing ...

連結中 Steller 的評論對於 Marc 的超車方式很直接的描述
He's used his bike as a battering ram and other riders as bump stop for countless times in his career.

Marc 將對手的車子當作護欄來擦撞過彎, 最近的例子就是 2013 Jerez 在 Final lap 的最後左彎與 Lorenzo  的碰撞, 跟這次的碰撞如出一轍.
Marc 利用滑胎煞車入彎將車子快速搶到 Apex, 即使領先車動線也是往 Apex 且在自己前方也這麼作, 此時若發生碰撞剛好讓滑動的能量傳遞出去, 讓自己保持在動線, 而將對手碰出動線 (像打撞球一樣). Lorenzo 就是這樣跑開, Rossi 這次也是.
MotoGP Director 也說明領先車有動線優先權, Marc 的超車方式實在是走在規則邊緣.

相較於 Marc 的方式,
Rossi 在 2009 年 Catalunya 最後一個彎道超越 Lorenzo 的乾淨俐落與驚險則成為了經典, 令人再三回味.

Marc 雖然開創了入彎滑胎到 Apex 再出彎的 Style (Cructhlow 稱之為 V 型過彎), 高傾角磨手肘過彎, 與 Rossi 當年伸腿煞車入彎一樣改變了許多人的騎乘方式.
但是超車的風格個人無法接受 (跟我不懂賽車玩 GT 遊戲一樣, 總是將對手碰撞推擠出彎道來取勝.)

KirinSu 發表於 2015-6-28 00:03
按照這樣的說法，若是Rossi因此摔車，MM93就有違規之嫌?

這問題讓我想起另篇文,

當 Lorenzo 被記者問起他對 Rossi, Marquez 競賽事件的看法, Lorenzo 的回應既幽默又高竿, 摘引原文如下:

Jorge Lorenzo, ...... , refused to be drawn into the debate,

turning the tables on a reporter who asked for his opinion on the drama.

“What is yours?” Lorenzo said, before adding: “You tell me yours and I will tell you mine.”

When the reporter finally said he felt Rossi should be absolved of any blame, Lorenzo replied: “I don't have an opinion.”

同篇文裏另外有句:

As the questioning continued, Marquez said he was unaware if his team had considered submitting a protest over the incident.

然後HRC官網後來有篇文裏頭有句:

After the official post-race press conference,

Marc and Valentino were called into race direction for a rider hearing and to review the video footage.

It was agreed this was a racing incident and no appeal has been lodged.

for007youreyes 發表於 2015-6-28 22:18
這問題讓我想起另篇文,

當 Lorenzo 被記者問起他對 Rossi, Marquez 競賽事件的看法, Lorenzo 的回應既 ...

我感覺L99已經懶得對MM93多說什麼，不過HRC看完空照畫面後算是自知理虧嗎?